This is a wide ranging conversation about forgiveness, pain and healing. We talk about the number one access point to forgiving our fathers and others who we feel have caused us great pain.

We wade into deeper issues in the world today and how it’s an opportunity to start a real conversation about true forgiveness, with empathy as the key access point.

We also discuss what it looks when we don’t forgive, when we operate on top of our pain versus lovingly addressing it.

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Theme song written and performed by Scott Ginsberg.